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8/19 Motions Session #3: The Guy in the Room When Hawsawi Was Questioned

Raffaela Wakeman, Wells Bennett
Monday, August 19, 2013, 11:19 AM

The commission is called to order after a brief recess, and all accused are present.

On behalf of Mustafa Al-Hawsawi, CDR Walter Ruiz reminds the court about his request to review an unredacted version of FBI Agent Fitzgerald’s notes from his interrogation of Al-Hawsawi. We’ll get to that issue, the court says, after hearing from the next language proficiency witness: Special Agent Steven MacLean of the Army’s Criminal Investigation Command. Chief Prosecutor Gen. Mark Martins delivers the oath, then Ruiz questions MacLean.

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The commission is called to order after a brief recess, and all accused are present.

On behalf of Mustafa Al-Hawsawi, CDR Walter Ruiz reminds the court about his request to review an unredacted version of FBI Agent Fitzgerald’s notes from his interrogation of Al-Hawsawi. We’ll get to that issue, the court says, after hearing from the next language proficiency witness: Special Agent Steven MacLean of the Army’s Criminal Investigation Command. Chief Prosecutor Gen. Mark Martins delivers the oath, then Ruiz questions MacLean.

Ruiz goes through the witness’s employment history: prior to his current post, MacLean was with the Air Force’s Office of Special Investigations. During his assignment at GTMO, MacLean was tasked with attending the interrogation of Mustafa Al-Hawsawi, Ruiz's client. The witness has interrogated native Arabic speakers, approximately a dozen times prior. And MacLean always asks whether an interviewee would like the assistance of a translator----though he did not decide whether Al-Hawsawi’s questioning would require translation.  That was a matter for Special Agent Fitzgerald, who was the primary agent during the interrogation. MacLean tells Ruiz instead that he was there only to “assist,” meaning that he sat and listened to the conversation. MacLean also reviewed Fitzgerald’s notes, which comprised less than ten pages of copy, and to his knowledge, were not classified, although he did review them in a SCIF.  Through questions put to the witness, Ruiz confirms that his client wasn’t Mirandized, or advised of his right to counsel---but, MacLean answers, Agent Fitzgerald did tell Al-Hawsawi that he was suspected of criminal conduct.  Still, MacLean acknowledges, the group did not inform Al-Hawsawi of the specific allegations against him.

That’s it for Ruiz.  Prosecutor Edward Ryan then rises, and reviews MacLean‘s language-relevant credentials once more. Ryan asks for the witness’s assessment of Al-Hawsawi’s English-language-capability: he fully understood and answered the questions thoroughly. Simple enough.

CDR Ruiz attempts to ask a final question of the witness, which is overruled by the judge. Judge Pohl, though, has some questions for Ed Ryan regarding the status of Special Agent Fitzgerald’s notes---they were only de-classified after being redacted. Up next, the protective order's memorandum of understanding.

Raffaela Wakeman is a Senior Director at In-Q-Tel. She started her career at the Brookings Institution, where she spent five years conducting research on national security, election reform, and Congress. During this time she was also the Associate Editor of Lawfare. From there, Raffaela practiced law at the U.S. Department of Defense for four years, advising her clients on privacy and surveillance law, cybersecurity, and foreign liaison relationships. She departed DoD in 2019 to join the Majority Staff of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where she oversaw the Intelligence Community’s science and technology portfolios, cybersecurity, and surveillance activities. She left HPSCI in May 2021 to join IQT. Raffaela received her BS and MS in Political Science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 2009 and her law degree from Georgetown University Law Center in 2015, where she was recognized for her commitment to public service with the Joyce Chiang Memorial Award. While at the Department of Defense, she was the inaugural recipient of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence’s General Counsel Award for exhibiting the highest standards of leadership, professional conduct, and integrity.
Wells C. Bennett was Managing Editor of Lawfare and a Fellow in National Security Law at the Brookings Institution. Before coming to Brookings, he was an Associate at Arnold & Porter LLP.

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