The Chatter Podcast: Garrett Graff on ‘Dragonfire’ and the Stories We Still Tell about 9/11

David Priess
Friday, November 26, 2021, 10:09 AM

On this week’s episode of Chatter, Shane Harris talks with journalist, historian, and now-fiction writer Garrett Graff.

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On this week’s episode of Chatter, Shane Harris talks with journalist, historian, and now-fiction writer Garrett Graff. They discuss how Garrett first began writing about the FBI and the 9/11 attacks, as well as his new novella, what he calls a work of “speculative nonfiction,” about a real terror scare that got surprisingly little attention.

Garrett’s new book, Dragonfire: Four Days That (Almost) Changed America, is available from Scribd Originals.

Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo with engineering assistance from Ian Enright.

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David Priess is Director of Intelligence at Bedrock Learning, Inc. and a Senior Fellow at the Michael V. Hayden Center for Intelligence, Policy, and International Security. He served during the Clinton and Bush 43 administrations as a CIA officer and has written two books: “The President’s Book of Secrets,” about the top-secret President’s Daily Brief, and "How To Get Rid of a President," describing the ways American presidents have left office.

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