The Chatter Podcast: Security and Art with Laurie Anderson

David Priess
Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:59 AM

This week, Shane Harris talks with pioneering multi-media artist Laurie Anderson. A retrospective of her work, called “The Weather,” is showing at the Hirshhorn Museum in Washington, D.C. Several of Anderson’s works explore themes of security, terrorism, and surveillance; her piece “Habeus Corpus” is a monumental scale video and sculpture installation about Mohammed el Gharani, who was imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay for seven years. 

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This week, Shane Harris talks with pioneering multi-media artist Laurie Anderson. A retrospective of her work, called “The Weather,” is showing at the Hirshhorn Museum in Washington, D.C. Several of Anderson’s works explore themes of security, terrorism, and surveillance; her piece “Habeus Corpus” is a monumental scale video and sculpture installation about Mohammed el Gharani, who was imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay for seven years. 

Anderson talked about her life in New York during the pandemic, her creative influences, and the surprising ways that her storytelling has intersected with national security. For instance, her biggest musical hit, “O Superman,” was inspired by the Iran hostage crisis.

Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo with engineering assistance from Ian Enright.

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Among the works mentioned in this episode are:

“The Weather” at The Hirshhorn 

“Habeus Corpus”

Anderson’s Norton Lectures

“O Superman” music video 


David Priess is Director of Intelligence at Bedrock Learning, Inc. and a Senior Fellow at the Michael V. Hayden Center for Intelligence, Policy, and International Security. He served during the Clinton and Bush 43 administrations as a CIA officer and has written two books: “The President’s Book of Secrets,” about the top-secret President’s Daily Brief, and "How To Get Rid of a President," describing the ways American presidents have left office.

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