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Part 2 of our interview with Shashank Joshi, defense editor at the Economist, and Mike Horowitz, professor at Penn who served as Biden’s US DAS of Defense for Force Development and Emerging Capabilities. Here’s part 1.

In this installment, we discuss…

  • AI as a general-purpose technology with both direct and indirect impacts on national power,
  • How AGI might drive breakthroughs in military innovation,
  • The military applications of AI already unfolding in Ukraine, including drone capabilies and “precise mass” more broadly,
  • Whether AGI development increases the probability of a preemptive strike on the US.

Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."
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