Foreign Relations & International Law

ChinaTalk: Richard Fontaine on CNAS and U.S.-Chin‪a‬

Jordan Schneider
Monday, February 8, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Richard Fontaine, CEO of the Center for New American Security (CNAS), discusses what it's like to run what very well may be the hottest think tank in the Asia policy game (full disclosure: I'm a CNAS adjunct).

We get into Biden and Asia and how the new president's foreign policy team will prioritize what they want to get out of the U.S.-China relationship. We also touch on the biggest argument Richard's had with current senior Pentagon official and former CNAS Vice President Ely Ratner, what he's learned from looking at China questions with Silicon Valley luminaries, why he'd like to do more faith-centered studies of foreign policy, what fiction he's reading...and if you stick around until the end of the show we get into export controls!

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Outtro music (after all the complaints about Bruce Springsteen, you get two tracks this week...)

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Jordan Schneider is the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. He previously worked at Kwai, Bridgewater and the Eurasia Group. His Chinese landscape paintings "show promise."

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