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The Lawfare Podcast: Claudia Swain on Cybersecurity and Trains

Jen Patja, Benjamin Wittes, Claudia Swain
Thursday, October 27, 2022, 12:00 PM

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Claudia Swain is Lawfare’s digital strategist—but before coming to Lawfare, she worked at the Federal Railroad Administration, deep in the bureaucracy. She recently wrote an article for Lawfare called, “The Emerging Cyber Threat to the American Rail Industry,” which is a bit of a chilling read about the threat that the American rail industry faces as a result of, of all things, new computerized safety systems.

Benjamin Wittes sat down with Claudia for a fascinating conversation about Positive Train Control, this new computerized system, and the potential cybersecurity threats it poses.


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Jen Patja is the editor and producer of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security. She currently serves as the Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics, a nonprofit organization that empowers the next generation of leaders in Virginia by promoting constitutional literacy, critical thinking, and civic engagement. She is the former Deputy Director of the Robert H. Smith Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier and has been a freelance editor for over 20 years.
Benjamin Wittes is editor in chief of Lawfare and a Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of several books.
Claudia Swain was the digital strategist of Lawfare. She previously worked as a program fellow at #NatSecGirlSquad and as a bureaucrat at the Federal Railroad Administration. She holds a MA in Security Studies from Georgetown University and a BA in Government from The College of William and Mary.

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