The Lawfare Podcast: Ukraine and the Future of National Security Law

Jen Patja, Natalie K. Orpett, Brian Finucane, Chimène Keitner, Todd Huntley, Scott R. Anderson
Friday, April 22, 2022, 12:00 PM

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In this live recording of the Lawfare Live event, “Ukraine and the Future of National Security Law,” Natalie Orpett moderated a panel of experts, including Brian Finucane, senior adviser for the U.S. Program at the International Crisis Group; Chimene Keitner, professor of international law at UC Hastings; Todd Huntley, director of the National Security Law Program at Georgetown Law; and Scott R. Anderson, Lawfare senior editor and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. They talked about a wide range of issues coming out of the current conflict in Ukraine, ranging from war crimes, to sanctions, to information operations, to the multidimensional role that technology is playing. They talked about what we're seeing now and what it may mean for the future of national security law and international law.


Jen Patja is the editor and producer of the Lawfare Podcast and Rational Security. She currently serves as the Co-Executive Director of Virginia Civics, a nonprofit organization that empowers the next generation of leaders in Virginia by promoting constitutional literacy, critical thinking, and civic engagement. She is the former Deputy Director of the Robert H. Smith Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier and has been a freelance editor for over 20 years.
Natalie Orpett is the executive editor of Lawfare and deputy general counsel of the Lawfare Institute. She was previously an attorney at the law firm Jenner & Block, where she focused on investigations and government controversies, and also maintained an active pro bono practice. She served as civilian counsel to a defendant in the Guantanamo Military Commissions for more than eight years. She also served as counsel to the National Security and Foreign Policy Legal Team of the Biden-Harris Transition Team.
Brian Finucane is a Senior Adviser for the U.S. Program at the International Crisis Group. He focuses on developing policies and institutional checks to decrease U.S. reliance on military tools in foreign affairs, including through legislative reforms of war powers and counterterrorism authorities.
Chimène Keitner is Martin Luther King Jr. Professor of Law at the University of California Davis School of Law. She is a leading authority on international law and civil litigation, and served as the 27th Counselor on International Law in the U.S. Department of State.
Todd Huntley is the Director of the National Security Law Program at Georgetown University Law Center and a Lecturer in Law, teaching National Security Law related courses. Todd retired from the U.S. Navy in September 2020 after serving more than 23 years on active duty as a Judge Advocate General where he advised senior military and civilian leaders on national security and international law matters. He has extensive experience supporting the Special Operations community, including serving as the senior U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) attorney in Washington, D.C.; the senior legal advisor to the Commander, U.S. Special Operations Command Central (SOCCENT); and as the legal advisor for information and cyber operations at SOCOM HQ in Tampa, FL. Todd has deployed twice to Afghanistan with a Joint Special Operations Task Force conducting counter-terrorism operations and has advised on all aspects of operations including targeting, intelligence, detention, and cyber operations.
Scott R. Anderson is a fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution and a Senior Fellow in the National Security Law Program at Columbia Law School. He previously served as an Attorney-Adviser in the Office of the Legal Adviser at the U.S. Department of State and as the legal advisor for the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, Iraq.

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