The National Security Law Podcast: About that #Mehmo (Special Edition on the Nunes Memo Release)

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Friday, February 2, 2018, 5:27 PM

President Trump has declassified the Nunes Memo and it now is available to the public. Your hosts–Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck–give it a deep-dive review here in a special-edition podcast episode. Tune in to hear them discuss:

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President Trump has declassified the Nunes Memo and it now is available to the public. Your hosts–Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck–give it a deep-dive review here in a special-edition podcast episode. Tune in to hear them discuss:

  • whether there are any factual claims in the memo which (if true) are worthy of concern (preview: they single out two);
  • whether any such concerns extend so far as to call into doubt whether FISC should have granted an order to surveil Carter Page (preview: no);
  • whether any such doubt extends to the larger FBI counterintelligence investigation involving Russia (preview: the #mehmo itself underscores that this investigation was well underway already); and
  • whether FBI Director Wray should now resign (preview: your hosts disagree.

Be sure to listen through to the very end, by the way; if you are a regular listener, you might be surprised by who gets most fired-up at the conclusion.

Meanwhile: please spread the word about this episode, and the show more generally!


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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