The National Security Law Podcast: And the Oscar Goes To…NSL Podcast!

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Wednesday, February 27, 2019, 10:49 AM

The Oscars may not have a host, but we do! Tune in to our latest episode as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney debate a wide range of national security developments from the past week, including:

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The Oscars may not have a host, but we do! Tune in to our latest episode as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney debate a wide range of national security developments from the past week, including:

  1. May “ISIS bride” Hoda Muthana return to the United States? Secretary Pompeo has announced that she may not, on the ground that she is not a citizen. We review and debate a slew of issues this raises, including the legal frameworks for birthright citizenship, making determinations about citizenship status, expatriation, statelessness, and more.
  2. Should the State Department formally designate one or more drug cartels as “Foreign Terrorist Organizations,” triggering an array of consequences including making 18 USC 2339B–the famous 1996 “material support” law–relevant?
  3. Is the D.C. Circuit poised to rule that the Fifth Amendment Due Process Clause (in its procedural aspect) applies at GTMO, and what clues do we glean about this from the decision to deny preemptive en banc review in Ali?
  4. Speaking of the Fifth Amendment: Does the male-only nature of Selective Service Registration violate the protection against gender discrimination located in the equal-protection aspect of the Due Process Clause, now that women can have combat roles?

But these two can disagree about much more than the law. They’ve got opinions on the Oscars too…


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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