The National Security Law Podcast: Family Ties or Family Matters?

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Thursday, January 18, 2018, 1:37 PM

The National Security Law Podcast is back, with another weekly dose of national security legal news and analysis. Fresh off the stove this week we have:

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The National Security Law Podcast is back, with another weekly dose of national security legal news and analysis. Fresh off the stove this week we have:

  1. Dalmazzi – Steve just returned from his first Supreme Court argument, in the Dalmazzi litigation regarding whether military officers may serve both as CAAF and CMCR judges. Tune in to discover why the room erupted in laughter right before Steve began his argument, and to learn why Justice Kennedy wanted to know if Steve thinks Marbury was decided correctly!
  2. al-Bihani et al. v. Trump – The first grand wave of Guantanamo habeas litigation largely wrapped up some time ago, but the filing of this renewed petition by a group of 11 detainees reminds us that more litigation is always possible. In this case, there are arguments to the effect that the armed conflict with al-Qaeda has ended, and that President Doanld Trump in any event has abandoned reliance on the idea of detention solely for the duration of hostilities in favor of permanent detention.
  3. The FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act – The Section 702 renewal drama is nearing its end. Last week, Trump quietly directed Director of National Intelligence Coats to introduce IC-wide rules on “unmasking,” and he duly complied on Thursday (including rules specific to unmasking of USP identities involving members of presidential transition teams, naturally). Who knows whether that helped pave the way for the Section 702 renewal bill, but it certainly didn’t hurt. At any rate, the FISA Amendments Act has now overcome a Senate filibuster, and should pass later this week and become law at some point thereafter. We wrap this week’s episode, therefore, with an initial close-read of Section 101 of the Act, which imposes a warrant requirement on FBI access to the fruits of 702 collection involving queries using U.S. person identifiers. Suffice to say: it’s complicated.

For better or worse, Bobby and Steve continue to insist on ending the show on a lighter note. This week’s frivolity? Best. Sitcoms. Ever.


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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