The National Security Law Podcast: Hello from Austin…Hall?

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Friday, October 18, 2019, 11:59 AM

We recorded on Thursday before a live audience in Austin! Austin Hall, that is, on the campus of Harvard Law School! Special thanks to Matt Morris and the great students of the Harvard National Security & Law Association, and to all who attended!

We certainly didn’t lack for topics. Professors Vladeck and Chesney discussed and debated:

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We recorded on Thursday before a live audience in Austin! Austin Hall, that is, on the campus of Harvard Law School! Special thanks to Matt Morris and the great students of the Harvard National Security & Law Association, and to all who attended!

We certainly didn’t lack for topics. Professors Vladeck and Chesney discussed and debated:

  1. The “Beatles” detainees: What are the hurdles to continued military detention of these two formerly-British Islamic State members who are now in U.S. custody in Iraq? Will courts assert jurisdiction? Would they find that IS is in the scope of the 2001 AUMF and the Fiscal 2012 NDAA? Is there still an armed conflict? And if they instead are prosecuted, what are the hurdles? What does pending litigation in the UK Supreme Court have to do with it all?
  2. Trumplandia: So much to discuss, including Giuliani’s peremptory strike against testifying and the question of attorney-client privilege, the Mazars decision and Judge Rao’s dissent, and much more.
  3. DHS roundup: Who is the acting secretary, who is not eligible to be so designated, and what’s this about an administrative subpoena authority designed to help deal with botnets?

Being in the greater Boston region, our frivolity had to be Boston-themed of course. So, tune in for a wicked and rambling run through of Boston-based movies, T.V. shows and sports heroes. Better still, stay tuned after that so you can enjoy the extended audience Q&A session that followed it all!


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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