The National Security Law Podcast: This Podcast Is Invoking 'P'!

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Monday, March 30, 2020, 11:13 AM

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This is our second lockdown episode, simulcast as a Zoom-based video! If you didn’t believe us before about our commitment to production authenticity, well you will if you watch the video version! You should be able to download it here.

Happily, we are joined this week by Prof. Jen Daskal from American University’s Washington College of Law. Jen is our first two-time guest on the show (our first live event was with her students at American last year)! Tune in for discussions of:

  • The power of the federal government (or lack thereof) in relation to state public health directives to shelter-in-place or otherwise restricting movement
  • The President’s emphatic invocation of “P!” directed at GM today…to which we say, covfefe!
  • What might occur in the weeks ahead in relation to data-gathering in support of public health measures (especially exposure-tracking and quarantine enforcement)
  • The United Kingdom’s Supreme Court ruling in “the Beatles” case, refusing to allow the Home Secretary to pass the fruits of a British criminal investigation to the US Justice Department because the United States intends to seek the Death Penalty in that case. Will we now see a shift to prosecution without the death penalty, or instead ongoing military detention? And if the latter, will it hold up in court?

And then there’s the frivolity. If you are ready to talk Picard or West World, we are here for you!


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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