The National Security Law Podcast: What Would Robert Jackson Do?

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Monday, August 31, 2020, 5:38 PM

Published by The Lawfare Institute
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We are back after a week off, and apparently your co-hosts used the extra time to sharpen disagreements about old school topics like … GTMO! Tune in for:

  • An extended debate over the D.C. Circuit’s Al Hela decision, including everything from the scope of the NDAA FY’12 detention provisions to the applicability of the Due Process Clause at GTMO
  • A shorter discussion of similar issues that also arose last week in the district court’s ruling in Uthman
  • About the Hatch Act….I mean, good heavens.

We also include a Chadwick Boseman appreciation, in lieu of our usual frivolity. And it somehow turns into a discussion of deep fakes, too.


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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