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The National Security Law Podcast: The Witness Who Became a Meme

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 12:13 PM

The latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast

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What’s that? A new episode? What have these guys been doing all month…

Well, whatever they’ve been doing all September since Episode 209, Professors Vladeck and Chesney are back at last with a new episode. Tune in as they discuss and debate:

  • The en banc D.C. Circuit oral argument in al Hela (asking, inter alia, whether the Due Process Clause applies at GTMO)
  • A preview of the upcoming SCOTUS arguments relating to the State Secrets Privilege
  • The Dorfman/Naylor/Isikoff article on CIA planning relating to Assange and Wikileaks
  • A National Security Division roundup noting the sudden wind-up of the Huawei CFO case and the new material support case against a Canadian Islamic State fighter previously held by the SDF in Syria

All that, plus no small amount of frivolity (including a much-too-long endorsement of the greatness that is Joe Abercrombie).


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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