National Security Law Podcast: You Are 'Hereby Ordered' To Listen To This Podcast

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Thursday, August 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

Well, that’s not quite what the president said. It was something about American companies and trade with China, not you and your podcast app. And IEEPA can’t be used to make anyone listen to this podcast, we suppose. But voluntary cooperation is welcome, and those who tune in this week won’t be disappointed when they find co-hosts Vladeck and Chesney discussing and debating:

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Well, that’s not quite what the president said. It was something about American companies and trade with China, not you and your podcast app. And IEEPA can’t be used to make anyone listen to this podcast, we suppose. But voluntary cooperation is welcome, and those who tune in this week won’t be disappointed when they find co-hosts Vladeck and Chesney discussing and debating:

  1. The International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) as a basis for a potential POTUS order barring U.S. companies from transacting with Chinese counterparts
  2. The latest developments (this time at the SCOTUS level) in the Ninth Circuit litigation over Trump administration rules attempting to restrict the pathways for seeking asylum in the US
  3. An important but overlooked military commissions development involving the viability of inchoate conspiracy charges (and the meaning of a badly splintered D.C. Circuit opinion on that topic).

As for frivolity? Not that frivolous today, actually, as your hosts take up the task of giving advice to 1Ls who are starting law school this month. Or, you could just watch clips from the Paper Chase


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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