Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast: Interview with Corin Stone

Stewart Baker
Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 12:39 PM

Our guest for episode 148 of the podcast is Corin Stone, the Executive Director of the National Security Agency. Corin handles some tough questions—should the new team dump PPD-28, how is morale at the agency after the Snowden and Shadowbroker leaks, and will fully separating Cyber Command from NSA mean new turf fights? I give Corin plenty of free advice and, more usefully, our first in-person award of the coveted Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast coffee mug.

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Our guest for episode 148 of the podcast is Corin Stone, the Executive Director of the National Security Agency. Corin handles some tough questions—should the new team dump PPD-28, how is morale at the agency after the Snowden and Shadowbroker leaks, and will fully separating Cyber Command from NSA mean new turf fights? I give Corin plenty of free advice and, more usefully, our first in-person award of the coveted Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast coffee mug.

In the news, Alan Cohn and I cover the Second Circuit’s much-ado-about-nothing package of opinions on rehearing the Microsoft-Ireland case.

Maury and I discuss what the new White House executive order on the privacy rights of foreigners meansas well as Donald Trump’s meeting with Theresa May (including whether they talked about Russia sanctions). Also on the agenda: Has Donald Trump already surpassed Barack Obama’s lifetime record for holding hands with prominent White House visitors?

Speaking of Peter Thiel, Jennifer Quinn-Barabanov and I speculate about whether FTC commissioner Maureen Ohlhausen will pull the FTC back from the ledge on suing companies for security flaws that don’t cause demonstrable consumer harm. And whether Peter Thiel is looking for someone else to chair the FTC.

In other news, no new executive order on cybersecurity yet, despite (or because of) the leaks. China disses attribution. And ADT settles an early IOT security class action.

As always, the Cyberlaw Podcast welcomes feedback. Send an email to CyberlawPodcast@steptoe.com or leave a message at +1 202 862 5785.

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Stewart A. Baker is a partner in the Washington office of Steptoe & Johnson LLP. He returned to the firm following 3½ years at the Department of Homeland Security as its first Assistant Secretary for Policy. He earlier served as general counsel of the National Security Agency.

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