Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast, Episode #10: An Interview with Mark Weatherford

Stewart Baker
Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 10:38 AM
In the latest episode of the Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast, Jason Weinstein and I cover a host of topics.

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In the latest episode of the Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast, Jason Weinstein and I cover a host of topics. In the continuing NSA saga, we note the Director’s hints about a possible end to the broad collection of metadata---and the FISA court’s refusal to extend the 5-year retention deadline for NSA’s store of metadata.  Was that ruling a defeat for NSA or the result of a clever litigation strategy?  The Steptoe podcasters consider both possibilities. Bitcoin will deserve a podcast of its own if it keeps acting more like a soap opera than a currency.  Jason has the latest. Meanwhile, taking a second look at the copyright fight over the movie, “Innocence of Muslims” Jason and I express some unease about the Ninth Circuit’s method for doing rough justice and speculate on the prospects for en banc review, even as Google finds a way to display the movie, minus one actress’s performance. In wiretap news, the $21 million Justice Department claim against Sprint for overcharging on wiretaps gets a close look. As for cybersecurity policy, the Obama administration’s approach is getting the most sincere form of flattery from other nations. China and Europe are once again living out the fantasies of American officials. Except for the FTC, which as far as we can tell is already living in its own fantasy, riding a 50-plus streak of wins to a couple more victories, though one was closer than expected. Finally, in our interview segment, the former head of cybersecurity at DHS, Mark Weatherford, offers candid views about what’s working at DHS and what’s not, the relationship with NSA, and where things will go from here.

Stewart A. Baker is a partner in the Washington office of Steptoe & Johnson LLP. He returned to the firm following 3½ years at the Department of Homeland Security as its first Assistant Secretary for Policy. He earlier served as general counsel of the National Security Agency.

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